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samelaSat Mar-20-04 08:33 PM
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I'm totally with you on this one, and will put pressure on the party here insofar as possible to add a repeal to the platform. I spent so many years fighting in and for public education, and I've felt deeply since the beginning that NCLB was the wrong path (and I told my senator, Ted Kennedy, so).

I hate to bring up (sob) past candidates, cause it's in the past. But I'd like to use this discussion to resurrect a few things Wes Clark had to say on this subject. It's one of the reasons I jumped onto his ship. Clark did not only oppose NCLB because it was underfunded and because in his estimation its whole purpose was to destroy public education in this country, but because he thought it is bad policy. Not the sorts of measures that will ever lead to better education.

Here's what he had to say in an interview with Josh Marshall shortly after he entered the race last fall. He elaborated on these ideas more fully later in the campaign (most memorably, in my estimation, in his explanation about how factual content, which is measured by these tests promoted by NCLB, should not be the main goal or measure of education--rather teachers' greatest input into education is instilling a lifelong attitudes to learning in students: making them want to learn on their own, teaching them ways of accessing information and a love for learning that will promote self-direction and long-term engagement with ideas; this is nothing that NCLB can help to achieve; indeed it does the opposite). I don't have those later comments, but I think even these early comments bear repeating:

--snip--

This administration has crafted an ideology that basically is designed to roll back the institutions that have helped this country. They promote the ideology through sloganeering, through labeling, name-calling, talk radio. But when you really get down and scratch it, there's not much there.

For example, take the idea of competition in schools. OK now, what is competition in schools? What does it really mean? Well, competition in business means you have somebody who's in a business that has a profit motive in it. It's measured every quarter. If the business doesn't keep up, the business is going to lose revenue, therefore it has an incentive to restructure, reorganize, re-plan, re-compete and stay in business.

Schools aren't businesses. Schools are institutions of public service. Their job--their product--is not measured in terms of revenues gained. It's measured in terms of young lives whose potential can be realized. And you don't measure that either in terms of popularity of the school, or in terms of the standardized test scores in the school. You measure it child-by-child, in the interaction of the child with the teacher, the parent with the teacher, and the child in a larger environment later on in life.

So when people say that competition is-this is sort of sloganeering, "Hey, you know, schools need this competition." No. I've challenged people: Tell me why it is that competition would improve a school. Most of them can't explain it. It's just like, "Well, competition improves everything so therefore it must improve schools."

If you want to improve schools, you've got to go inside the processes that make a school great. You've got to look at the teachers, their qualifications, their motivation, what it is that gives a teacher satisfaction, what it is a teacher wants to do in a classroom. We've got to empower teachers. Give them an opportunity to lead in the classroom. Teachers are the most important leaders in America. All that is lost in the sloganeering of this party. And the American people know it's lost. So you asked me to give you one thing about this party that's in power -- it's the sort of doctrinaire ideology that doesn't really understand the country that we're living in.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/old/oct0301.html


The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie,
deliberate, contrived and dishonest, but the myth,
persistent, persuasive and unrealistic.
John F. Kennedy

  

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I Want To Talk About Platform & No Child Left Behind [View all] , JodyBJodyBresch3, Sat Mar-20-04 06:55 PM
Great Job, Jody B!, monkeyfister, Mar-20-04 07:23 PM, #1
Major kudos and a shot of chinaco, SDent, Mar-20-04 08:31 PM, #2
Great job, Jody, samela, Mar-20-04 08:33 PM #3
amen. nt, SDent, Mar-20-04 08:45 PM, #4
Kudos! I'm quoting you at The Sideshow., Avedon, Mar-21-04 03:29 AM, #5
What a great example, Faun_Otter, Mar-21-04 05:18 AM, #6
Shrub is revising NCLB....., jimmymac, Mar-21-04 07:59 AM, #8
      Another Bush Empty Gesture, Revision Is A Waste Of Taxpayer Money!, JodyBJodyBresch3, Mar-22-04 06:46 AM, #11
Brand New Mark Fiore on the topic..., monkeyfister, Mar-21-04 07:20 AM, #7
RE: I Want To Talk About Platform & No Child Left Behind, crasmane, Mar-21-04 08:07 AM, #9
      Thanks, Feel Free To Quote Me Anywhere It Helps The Cause...And About ..., JodyBJodyBresch3, Mar-21-04 05:48 PM, #10
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