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  Whoaa!! Guv Goodhair is light in the loafers??!?,
DavidLind,
Feb-15-04 08:55 AM, #1
 RE: Gov. Perry (R-TX) Sex Scandal Brewing,
naranja2,
Feb-15-04 08:56 AM, #2
  Suspicious accidents AGAIN?,
Party_like_its_1984,
Feb-15-04 01:50 PM, #12
 RE: Suspicious accidents AGAIN?,
bansidhe,
Feb-15-04 04:07 PM, #16
 Secretary of State! The same position held by that wee whooore Harris.,
DavidLind,
Feb-15-04 09:06 AM, #3
 RE: Gov. Perry (R-TX) Sex Scandal Brewing,
vvarway,
Feb-15-04 09:13 AM, #4
 Thank god we're back to politics as usual ...,
samela,
Feb-15-04 09:16 AM, #5
  Whatever works,
Von Rex,
Feb-15-04 09:28 AM, #6
   It's the hypocrisy,
Lightpen,
Feb-16-04 09:33 AM, #26
  Politics ain't beanbag.,
DavidLind,
Feb-15-04 09:47 AM, #7
  Sorry Samela, I say "Bring. It. ON!",
concerned citizen,
Feb-15-04 10:45 AM, #8
  If true then nuke em'....(metaphorically speaking),
JohnIAT,
Feb-15-04 12:18 PM, #10
  Samela, for someone who has served the party dilegently,
WC Green,
Feb-15-04 01:37 PM, #11
 I agree with everyone that the scandal should be gone after ...,
samela,
Feb-15-04 03:55 PM, #15
 RE: I agree with everyone that the scandal should be gone after ...,
jacksonthor,
Feb-17-04 08:50 AM, #36
 Not sure it will matter.,
aed,
Feb-15-04 11:30 AM, #9
  What? What!!!,
Palmetto Yankee,
Feb-15-04 03:30 PM, #14
 RE: What? What!!!,
aed,
Feb-15-04 04:57 PM, #19
 This is Texas,
daldem,
Feb-15-04 03:21 PM, #13
  Doubt that,
MadSatyrist,
Feb-15-04 04:25 PM, #17
 RE: Doubt that,
daldem,
Feb-15-04 04:36 PM, #18
 RE: Doubt that,
nuveeeeena,
Feb-15-04 09:11 PM, #24
 RE: Gov. Perry (R-TX) Sex Scandal Brewing,
Wildcat,
Feb-15-04 06:42 PM, #20
  verily. truer words and all that. __n.t__,
KillerTomato,
Feb-15-04 06:54 PM, #21
  Actually that was Edwin Edwards "nt nm",
cusquena,
Feb-15-04 07:04 PM, #22
 RE: Actually that was Edwin Edwards "nt nm",
astrofan,
Feb-15-04 08:01 PM, #23
 if true, it would be a good one...,
moonwatcher,
Feb-16-04 01:19 AM, #25
 RE: Gov. Perry (R-TX) Sex Scandal Brewing,
jacksonthor,
Feb-16-04 09:34 AM, #27
 Update?,
RealDCC,
Feb-16-04 07:01 PM, #28
  waiting ...,
RussBLib,
Feb-17-04 06:40 AM, #32
 Wag the dog drills?,
jacksonthor,
Feb-17-04 08:22 AM, #34
 All hell is about to break loose on the Perry-Connor sex scandal,
jacksonthor,
Feb-18-04 04:17 PM, #38
 We Are Outraged By The Double-Standard Here!,
JodyBJodyBresch3,
Feb-18-04 04:31 PM, #39
 Oh my God!,
FreshLaundry,
Feb-17-04 05:31 AM, #29
  makeup is so advanced these days.,
KillerTomato,
Feb-17-04 06:27 AM, #30
  RE: Oh my God!,
dead_armadillo,
Feb-17-04 06:28 AM, #31
 If an elected rep,
Still Ben Pike,
Feb-17-04 06:45 AM, #33
 Does anyone know Molly Ivins?,
jacksonthor,
Feb-17-04 08:24 AM, #35
 RE: Does anyone know Molly Ivins?,
ThomasMc,
Feb-17-04 11:03 AM, #37
 Why this is good besides the obvious reason,
Party_like_its_1984,
Feb-18-04 07:23 PM, #40
 You don't look much like a STEER, son!,
Marion Delgado,
Feb-18-04 10:10 PM, #41
 RE: Gov. Perry (R-TX) Sex Scandal Brewing,
fleeter,
Feb-19-04 09:24 AM, #42
 Thread too long. Locking...,
onehandle,
Feb-19-04 09:40 AM, #43
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naranja2 | Sun Feb-15-04 08:56 AM |
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"RE: Gov. Perry (R-TX) Sex Scandal Brewing"
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This IS a scandal! Maybe not a sex scandal.
Everyone knows that by now Mrs. Perry should have been run over by driverless car that was accidently left in drive.
Someone better get with the program!
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"Suspicious accidents AGAIN?"
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>This IS a scandal! Maybe not a sex scandal. > >Everyone knows that by now Mrs. Perry should have been run >over by driverless car that was accidently left in drive. > >Someone better get with the program! >
I had forgotten about that one. That's really creepy.
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bansidhe | Sun Feb-15-04 04:07 PM |
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"RE: Suspicious accidents AGAIN?"
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DavidLind | Sun Feb-15-04 09:06 AM |
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"Secretary of State! The same position held by that wee whooore Harris."
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samela | Sun Feb-15-04 09:16 AM |
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"Thank god we're back to politics as usual ..."
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It was just bringing our collective little heads down in the great fun-loving U S of A having to think about all that stuff like invading a sovereign nation under false pretenses, and lying about weapons of mass destruction, and questions about intelligence before 9/11, and our good buds the Pakistanis selling off nuclear technology, and civil liberties and stuff .... it's, like, sooooo boring, and real complicated to follow.
Thank god we have sex scandals and who said what to whom and 30-year-old National Guard stories to save us from this dull stuff.
I'll be odd woman out here, but I'd really prefer if the scandal were about the horrific way Governor Goodhair used the Texas Legislature to get Tom Delay's redistricting done. I guess that isn't quite as juicy.
The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie, deliberate, contrived and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive and unrealistic. — John F. Kennedy
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Von Rex | Sun Feb-15-04 09:28 AM |
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"Whatever works"
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I'd prefer that too but it's not going to happen. Things like invading other countries on false pretenses are so, like, complicated. But one thing the American people and the American media can understand and relish is pointing a finger and saying "See him? He's a faggot!"
At this point, whatever gets the fascists out of office is fine by me.
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"Sorry Samela, I say "Bring. It. ON!""
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Whatever it takes to unmask these hypocritical a$$holes. You don't need to partake in it. Policy is, of course, the important thing. But we can't be playing by a different set of rules. Yeah, it makes us all culpable to a degree, but we can dust off and be serious once we send this crowd back to Texas, or prison.
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JohnIAT | Sun Feb-15-04 12:18 PM |
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"If true then nuke em'....(metaphorically speaking)"
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it was done to Gray Davis so lets line up someone on their side and do likewise and the same soonest. I realize it is childish and vengeance, but these are not our father's republicans... Anyay to get the ball rolling can someone down in the lone Star State PUH-LEEEZ ask Rick Perry to restate his position on gay marriage?
www.chimesatmidnight.blogspot.com
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samela | Sun Feb-15-04 03:55 PM |
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"I agree with everyone that the scandal should be gone after ..."
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... full force.
But I still lament that this is what it always comes down to. We gain short-term victories with it, but the real issues--the ones that really need to be addressed--live on beyond the individuals who get trounced. In other words, we win the battle, but the war just keeps going on and on and on.
Destroying Governor Perry over this scandal does not insure a Democrat will land in the governor's mansion in Texas next time. It just insures the voters won't trust a guy with fancy hair.
Plus, as good Democrats, we can't go around saying nyah nyah he's a fag; what a hypocrite. It'll make us look like hypocrites (except on the fidelity issue), and it kills our own message. Hell, The O.C. already did this plot in early December ... you know, where the rich jock finds his dad French kissing his business partner at the Lexus dealership they own. And all of Orange County ends up really glad the guy can be himself at last, and the horrified son ends up respecting him. (We lose track of the wife who's been cheated on.)
Watch for all the sympathy for this guy from the Pubs. Suddenly, George W. Bush will be on the cover of the Advocate.
The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie, deliberate, contrived and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive and unrealistic. — John F. Kennedy
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jacksonthor | Tue Feb-17-04 08:50 AM |
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Even if the pukes spin this perry scandal and support him, it will still be funny as hell to watch. We need some comic relief. And besides that, more in the media and elsewhere will realize what hypocrites these republicans are. I really think the media in general is on to the pukes more than they let on.
I'm not going after perry to bash gays - i think being gay mostly comes down to genetics, except for some who choose homosexuality or bisexuality - but over the hypocrisy issue.
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aed | Sun Feb-15-04 11:30 AM |
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"Not sure it will matter."
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The same sorts of rumors have been going around about Lindsay Graham (R-SC) for years. There was even one that the BFFE was going to out him before his Senate campaign as revenge for supporting McCain in the 2000 primaries. It didn't happen. They'll find a way to quell the Gov. Goodhair rumors, just as they did for that sanctimonious twerp Graham. If not, the minions will just put their fingers in their ears, and squint their eyes shut, and say loudly, "La la la la la...."
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"What? What!!!"
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My esteemed Senator is gay? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you. Sen. Graham hails from the far western region of this state, where men are men, and the sheep are scared.
Palmetto Yankee
Time has come today!
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aed | Sun Feb-15-04 04:57 PM |
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"RE: What? What!!!"
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Yep. He was my so-called representative at one time, sad to say. I moved about 15 miles east a couple of years before he went to the Senate, and I wound up in another district. My current so-called rep. is not much better, although no rumors about his sexuality. He's a jerk, too. Got one of those occasional mailings that remind us of his existence. which I never received from Graham, BTW. He had one of those "check the three most important issues" cards in his last one. It had everything on it except the jobs issue. I need to send it back and write "jobs" in on the "other" line, and cross out two of the other issues and write in "jobs" on both of them. (That's if it didn't become kindling.) I don't think he'll get the message, but he's going to hear about it anyway.
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daldem | Sun Feb-15-04 03:21 PM |
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"This is Texas"
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The conservative media in Texas protects it's own. The news of Perry will never go any futher than the rumor stage.
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MadSatyrist | Sun Feb-15-04 04:25 PM |
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"Doubt that"
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Too juicy. And Texas is the state where they play drag the fag. Too many editors who LIKE that game.
FIX YOUR FORUM!!!!!! On the top tool bar - Select View, then Text Size, then Smaller. Expand folders. Click last updated.
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daldem | Sun Feb-15-04 04:36 PM |
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"RE: Doubt that"
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They do play drag the fag....but NOT when the fag is the illustrious Republican Governor of the great state of Texas. We could never let those snippity Easterners know that we have a gay gov. We will see.....but I'd bet good money it never hits the news.
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nuveeeeena | Sun Feb-15-04 09:11 PM |
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"RE: Doubt that"
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Well, here's my contribution to the rumor mongering. I dislike Gov. Goodhair for other reasons.
From a Dallas website, the Front Burner
An Austin-watching, rumor-checking FrontBurnervian is hot on the trail of the gubernatorial matrimonial rumors:
Well, it's about time you get off your duff and engage in a little reportage, A. Good work on calling Haskell County. I see you spoke with Peggy Anderson, district clerk. Did you know that she's Rick's cousin?
THE AUSTIN RUMOR MILL...
...is grinding at top speed, and reporters all over the state are chasing down stories about the state of the governor's marriage. Nothing has hit print or the airwaves because none of it seems to be true. The big one this morning: Anita Perry filed for divorce yesterday in Haskell County, where the Perrys are from. It didn't happen, at least according to Penny Anderson, the Haskell County district clerk. But you know media-types: where's there's smoke, there's fire. Heck, it's because of the smoke that I called Penny.
RE: ZIPPERS
Part of the Austin rumor entails the Chronicle and the paper's having received confirmation of certain details. Supposedly they are set to publish a story on same. I can tell you that the Chronicle's policy, as expressed by a senior member of its staff, is: "We don't comment on any story we might or might not be working on." That said, I do not believe they are working on a story.
(my note: that would be the Austin Chronicle, a damn cool free daily publication.) http://www.austinchronicle.com
CAN POLITICIANS KEEP THEIR ZIPPERS ZIPPED?
<snip> Meanwhile, there's another rumor that has swept Austin in the past week or so about a high-ranking Republican whose wife is barely staying on the reservation, if she hasn't already left. <snip>
(and just for background)
LATEST NEWS August 26, 2003 Perry appoints new secretary of state
Geoffrey Connor will become Texas' 104th secretary of state, Gov. Rick Perry announced Tuesday.
Connor has served as assistant secretary of state since 2001 and led numerous international trade missions under two previous secretaries of state.
As secretary of state, Connor will serve as the state's chief elections officer and is the liaison for the governor on border and Mexican affairs.
Former Secretary of State Gwyn Shea resigned August 4 to spend more time with family, according to a letter Shea sent to Gov. Perry in July.
~o8o~ He had allowed his daughters to use his library without restraint, and nothing is more fatal to maidenly delicacy of speech than the run of a good library -- Robertson Davies
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moonwatcher | Mon Feb-16-04 01:19 AM |
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"if true, it would be a good one..."
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When I think of Texas, I think of this audio. scary stuff going on in Texas. Anything that might snap some souls back into the real world, I am for....
from NPR>>> RELIGIOUS RIGHT As the Republican Party of Texas began to dominate Texas politics through the 1990's, the Religious Right made inroads and eventually took control of the Party, pushing it even farther right.
NPR's Wade Goodwyn chronicles the dramatic political change that has occurred in Texas. After nurturing such powerful Democrats as Lyndon Johnson and Sam Rayburn, Texas today is dominated by Republicans. The party runs the legislature in Austin, and it counts Rep. Tom DeLay as a powerful ally in Washington. Many expect that the state's newly adopted redistricting plan will help the GOP increase its influence even more.
http://www.npr.org/dmg/dmg.php?prgCode=ATC&showDate=29-Oct-2003&segNum=4&mediaPref=RM
it's from this page if the link doesn't work, scroll down.
http://www.npr.org/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=2&prgDate=29-Oct-2003
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jacksonthor | Mon Feb-16-04 09:34 AM |
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"RE: Gov. Perry (R-TX) Sex Scandal Brewing"
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This is an interesting item....If true, it further shows how hypocritical these Republicans are. Remember, Perry was Bush's "right-hand man" - which may take on a new meaning soon - in Texas who pushed through the latest redistricting scheme. And remember how opposed publicly Bush and Perry are to gay marriages. The situation could also give new meaning to the phrase, "Politics makes strange bed-fellows." There are also similar rumors about Bush and the former mayor of Knoxville and his fellow Yale cheerleader. I wonder if the media will be asking Bush and Perry about these rumors, like the press is asking Kerry about rumors of affairs.
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jacksonthor | Tue Feb-17-04 08:22 AM |
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"Wag the dog drills?"
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Here's an AP story today. Are these drills part of the plan to divert attention from perry scandals?
Multiple disaster drill planned
02/17/2004
Associated Press
A multistate drill this week will help test Texas' response to multiple emergencies — including effects from a simulated nuclear explosion and a suspected radiation leak, officials say.
State leaders have been briefed that the disaster response exercise known as Unified Defense 04 Thursday and Friday will include the nuclear blast, a suspected radiation leak and a hurricane.
Other unplanned simulations may be added to the three mock events, said Kathy Walt, spokeswoman for Gov. Rick Perry, who will attend a Tuesday briefing on the drill with other officials.
"It's important to let the public know they won't be able to see anything" related to the drills, Walt told the San Antonio Express-News in Tuesday's online edition. "This is a tabletop exercise. They won't see any events occurring."
Walt said the simulated small nuclear detonation Friday in Cotulla will include 2,000 simulated deaths — the first time the federal government will be using such a scenario in an exercise.
A drill involving the scenario of a suspected radiation leak was also planned Friday at the Comanche Peak nuclear power plant. Walt said that under the mock exercise, the leak will turn out to be unfounded.
Officials said the exercise involving the simulated Category 4 hurricane, with winds of 131-155 mph, would hit Corpus Christi and its naval air station Thursday.
The Homeland Security Department and more than 50 federal, state and local entities will participate in the drills, according to the North American Aerospace Defense Command and the United States Northern Command, conducting the drill.
The drills are to determine how federal, state and local officials would react under simultaneous emergencies.
"One of the issues in preparing for homeland defense is the notion that, would terrorists look for natural disasters that are likely to occur and then try to time an event to coincide with a community or state responding to a natural disaster?" Walt said.
Most participants will be in Texas, Alaska, Colorado, Virginia and the D.C. region, according to the two commands. A debriefing with "lessons learned" will follow the exercise.
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jacksonthor | Wed Feb-18-04 04:17 PM |
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"All hell is about to break loose on the Perry-Connor sex scandal"
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Byron LaMasters, a 21-year-old student at the University of Texas at Austin and former president of the University Democrats Club, says at http://www.burntorangereport.com/archives/001085.html that he spoke to a GOP staffer at the Texas Capitol, who said regarding the Perry-Connor sex scandal, "All hell is about to break loose."
I have heard the same thing from others.
From http://www.gossiplist.com/blog/
There's also interesting stories like this abounding:
I crossed paths with a college student at UT who SWORE to me that the governor flirted with him and in a very roundabout way (meaning, if ever confronted, he could say he meant something else), extended an inviation to him to hook up. The governor acted like they knew each other, but the guy said they had never met before. At the time, I thought it was just the over active imagination or outright lie of a young kid. Perhaps not...
And here is a link to the story of Perry signing the Defense of Marriage Act in 2003:
http://www.aberdeennews.com/mld/aberdeennews/news/nation/5959187.htm Texas governor OKs 'defense of marriage act'
Gov. Rick Perry signed a law preventing Texas from legally recognizing same-sex unions that are formed in other states. Tuesday's signing of the Defense of Marriage Act makes it the 37th state to enact such a law, said Kelly Shackelford, president of the Plano-based Free Market Foundation, a group that describes itself as dedicated to strengthening families. Already, Texas only permits marriage between a man and a woman. "What this does, it protects your state from having a different definition forced on you from another state," Shackelford said. The new law denies same-sex couples who were joined in a marriage or civil union in another state the right to claim any legal protection or benefit granted to married people in Texas, including the ability to divorce or to demand job benefits given to married people. The law won't stop couples of the same sex from living together nor will it deny same-sex couples the right to bequeath property or enter into powers of attorney, said the bill's author, Republican Sen. Jeff Wentworth. Critics say the bill represents a right-wing agenda of intolerance. "It's about politics. It's about scapegoating gays and lesbians," said Randall Ellis, executive director of the Lesbian Gay Rights Lobby of Texas. Ellis said the act was unnecessary because existing statutes specify that, in Texas, state laws apply even to marriages performed elsewhere. Supporters said the act was needed to protect Texas from the decisions of judges in other states where same-sex unions could be recognized. "Like the vast majority of Texans, I believe that marriage represents a sacred union between a man and a woman," Perry said in a statement. "With passage of the Defense of Marriage Act, Texas now joins more than 30 states in reinforcing that basic belief."
.....But apparently to Perry it's OK for a man to have a "union" with another man as long as you don't get married....
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"We Are Outraged By The Double-Standard Here!"
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I do not see, however, in the United States of American, a caucasian male announcing that he is a homosexual, proud to be one, and that he is going to run for Governor of Texas or any other state. Part of success in politics is that 'family' man image. Is it right? Of course not, but then, he would have never been the Governor of Texas in the first place if the public had known about the duplicities in private life, now would he?
"All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke
Jody Bresch
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dead_armadillo | Tue Feb-17-04 06:28 AM |
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"RE: Oh my God!"
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ann coulter fools lots of people, for example
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jacksonthor | Tue Feb-17-04 08:24 AM |
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"Does anyone know Molly Ivins?"
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It seems Molly could get to the bottom of this. I emailed Jim Hightower, who I've met....
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ThomasMc | Tue Feb-17-04 11:03 AM |
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"RE: Does anyone know Molly Ivins?"
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"Why this is good besides the obvious reason"
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The Republican party has fooled a bunch of joe six-packs into identifying with them. We, the Republicans imply, are real honest straight(in every sense)-shootin', "are you ready for sum football" sayin' NASCAR lovin', God fearin', librul fightin', A-rab killin' family men who will save you from the queers, Hillary, the feminazis and the ACLU, just like Rush says.
Perry's story shatters this image in almost every possible way. If a couple of more closeted Republicans are outed or turn out to be addicted to synthetic heroin, it could be very serious.
This can have a huge impact. Check out, for instance, how many hits this thread has.
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Marion Delgado | Wed Feb-18-04 10:10 PM |
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