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FudThu Jul-29-10 01:47 PM
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"Michigan river oil spill"


          

This morning I heard it's a million gallons into the river and start looking up what company caused it. Ends up it's a Canadian company called Enbridge. So after looking them up I find they are a natural gas company. Looking further since that didn't seem right since oil isn't gas right? So then googling Enbridge and who owns it and partners and lo and behold. They partnered with BP for a pipeline for oil. So is that canadian company responsible for the lack of regulation in the US that Cheney put in place and blame it on the canadians?

This is a BP operation if you dig deeper and it doesn't take a Greg Palast to find out. Took me only a few minutes.

http://ca.news.finance.yahoo.com/s/29072010/2/biz-finance-enbridge-cleans-michigan-oil-pipeline-leak-under-shadow.html


Much more than that, there are so many links on the BP connection to that company so i wont bother pasting a bunch of text from each site.

These motherfuckers are going to try and place the blame elsewhere yet again.

  

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pandoraThu Jul-29-10 02:49 PM
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"Huge Oil Leaks are suddenly springing up everywhere"
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As Tony pointed out, there are 5 going on in the Gulf:

http://bartcopnation.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=2&topic_id=462454&mesg_id=462464&page=

Then there's a million gallons in Michigan....

And China has a REALLY bad one:

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/ap/july/125534/Large-China-oil-spill-threatens-sea-life-water



We just had one here in New Mexico:

Wednesday, 28 July 2010 17:47

Thousands of gallons of fuel oil spilled into a dry arroyo near Bosque del Apache after a train derailment Tuesday

http://www.abqjournal.com/abqnews/abqnewseeker-mainmenu-39/22915-updated-workers-remove-most-of-spilled-fuel-oil-near-wildlife-refuge.html#ixzz0v79EWWvD

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zenferretThu Jul-29-10 04:10 PM
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"We're hearing about them more"
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But I have a feeling this is really just normal.

No sure of this guys real credibility as he seems to be trying to minimize oil spills impact. But he seems to say there aer 164 spills of over 10,000 gallons of oil in the US every year back in the '90s. That's one almost every other day.

http://www.iosc.org/papers/00877.pdf

Yet another reason to get off of oil.

Peak oil is one of the lesser reasons.

-- good ole zenferret

  

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skippyThu Jul-29-10 05:40 PM
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""normal" and other fantasies"
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Edited on Thu Jul-29-10 05:42 PM by skippy

          

sea water is corrosive to metal. as more of these things age, a natural result will be more of them snapping off, or breaking, or otherwise beginning to leak.

there are many good reasons to, as you pecked out, "get off of oil," and environmental degradation is tops on the list.

to adjust your other comments, peak oil will dictate our "getting off of oil" whether you like it or not.


the question is: are we going to do it the smart, easy way, or the stupid, hard way.

all indications from those who share your "reasoning" indicate it'll be the latter.

but, hey! the good news is that there's plenty of sand out there to bury your head in.

Some of it with oil.

Mmmmmmmmm...delicious oil...Mmmmmmmmmm

  

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zenferretFri Jul-30-10 08:22 AM
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"Why so much hate for an ally?"
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I don't accept that Peak Oil is quite the serious problem that you think it is.

So you are rude and insulting.

Classy.

-- good ole zenferret

  

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MadSatyristMon Aug-02-10 02:16 AM
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"RE: "normal" and other fantasies"
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A few years back, there was a huge oil spill up some creek that emptied into the Big Sandy river. State of KY called up Ashland Oil (which owns all the oil rights in that entire end of the state) and started chewing them out. Ashland denied the whole thing because THEY HAD NO EQUIPMENT IN THAT AREA.

On investigation - there was a fair sized oil pocket up there that managed to work its way to the surface, and it simply pooled up till it ran into this creek. Ashland drilled about eighteen wells on the site and pumped like crazy till the oil stopped flowing up, then they filled the natural hole with cement. Far as I know they are still pumping oil up there.

I suppose they could have done the natural thing, and let it kill the Big Sandy, and cause a lot of problems downstream, but they didn't.

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