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DavidLindThu Dec-07-17 08:27 PM
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"And where the hell was the investigation??!"


          

Am I the only one that thinks this happened way too fast? Franken asked for an investigation. I myself am interested in just who these other accusers were. Are they completely anonymous to the public? If so, this unfolded with lynch mob speed. I think Franken's constituents deserve a better explanation.

Franken said he would resign in a couple of weeks. If these women have a shaky credibility, I would want Franken to reconsider and put up some resistance.

Matt Lauer worked for a private company. Al Franken works for the USG.

  

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Democrats didn't want to be accused of hypocrisy, Buzzcook, Dec-07-17 09:41 PM, #1
Optics, yes. Do you know what the optics ARE?????!, DavidLind, Dec-08-17 04:11 AM, #2
If you were on trial for your very life and you had a choice between....., DavidLind, Dec-08-17 04:40 AM, #3
RE: And where the hell was the investigation??!, MadSatyrist, Dec-08-17 06:44 AM, #4
RE: And where the hell was the investigation??!, Grayfox2, Dec-08-17 07:49 AM, #5
      RE: And where the hell was the investigation??!, Grayfox2, Dec-08-17 11:39 AM, #6
           RE: And where the hell was the investigation??!, Grayfox2, Dec-08-17 12:22 PM, #7
                THAT. Is basically the full extent of what went on, Grannyc, Dec-08-17 01:31 PM, #8
                The more I hear about Tweeden's connections and associations, the more..., DavidLind, Dec-08-17 03:53 PM, #9
I heard a rumor on a Right Wing FB page, Grannyc, Dec-09-17 03:31 AM, #10
      RE: I heard a rumor on a Right Wing FB page, DavidLind, Dec-09-17 06:20 AM, #11
           We're ok -- fires not too close, Grannyc, Dec-09-17 02:05 PM, #12

BuzzcookThu Dec-07-17 09:41 PM
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"Democrats didn't want to be accused of hypocrisy"
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So they made Franken fall on his sword for better optics.


An honest Republican?


  

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DavidLindFri Dec-08-17 04:11 AM
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"Optics, yes. Do you know what the optics ARE?????!"
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Edited on Fri Dec-08-17 04:21 AM by DavidLind

          

That democrats will collapse like a house of cards and the republicans will keep fighting on like Hitler in the bunker!!

If the democrats are making some kind of long range strategic consideration based on optics, they had better consider THAT optic. Some women may like the moral right/wrong aspect but there are a lot of women looking at the fight /won't fight aspect too.

And that important demographic, white men, are really looking at what just happened and aren't scratching their heads about democrats. THEY KNOW!!! Democrats have weak knees and won't put up a fight. THAT is a lethal optic for the democratic party!!

Democrats play the chump once again. I'm getting tired of it. Others are getting tired of it.


  

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DavidLindFri Dec-08-17 04:40 AM
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"If you were on trial for your very life and you had a choice between....."
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two lawyers and you only knew that one lawyer was weak and would collapse like a house of cards and the other lawyer would fight like hell. Which lawyer would you choose?

Democrats don't get it.

Roy Moore will win because our guy quit and their guy keeps on fighting.

Democrats don't get it.

  

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MadSatyristFri Dec-08-17 06:44 AM
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"RE: And where the hell was the investigation??!"
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While I think you've gotten behind the times a bit, as some of the later women to come forwards have been pretty credible, I would prefer formal investigation.

There is most certainly, by now, planning by the various dirty tricks groups that are intending to "save the world" from the Democratic party, to have unlimited bimbo eruptions during future elections.

That's just gonna happen. And forcing Franken out has set that up.

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Grayfox2Fri Dec-08-17 07:49 AM
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"RE: And where the hell was the investigation??!"
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The republican party and its followers have turned into really a party of crooks and liars(there is a progressive site with that name). This morning my wife was reading on face book that people in Alabama say old guys seeking young girls was no big deal in that time and besides the statue of limitations was up.
Eugene Robinson of the Wash Post this morning says he is worried even if the special prosecutor comes up with the dirt on Trump and Co. the repugs will do nothing.

  

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Grayfox2Fri Dec-08-17 11:39 AM
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"RE: And where the hell was the investigation??!"
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As far as an ethics investigation goes, since republicans would be in charge it would be a joke. Now that Franken has given up there will be no ethics probe. The house ethics probe on Kevin Nunes just cleared him. The dude is trying to protect Trump and has done some crazy stuff and yet they let him go so he can now go back to being in charge of the committee where he will be totally useless.

  

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Grayfox2Fri Dec-08-17 12:22 PM
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"RE: And where the hell was the investigation??!"
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Just reading a piece on TPM where a journalist who accused Franken described what he did. She said during a photo op apparently she requested he put his hand on her waist and squeezed and she felt uncomfortable since she had gained 20 lbs since she quit smoking.
Another story on DU is that the Tweeden lady is friends with Don Jr since 2011. Someone dug up a series of tweets between them and posted them on DU.
Another accusation was Franken approached her acting like he was going to kiss her, but apparently he never did.
Another was at a county fair where Franken put his hand around the woman's waist with her husband present.
That is like 4 are some what not credible, but the other two, who knows.
Some wag on TPM responses said men need to have their hands amputated if they are going to run for public office.

  

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GrannycFri Dec-08-17 01:31 PM
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"THAT. Is basically the full extent of what went on"
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Silliness'. No assault, No Harassment, No Power, No sex.

I am really upset that any of this was considered newsworthy. We knew the first accuser. She accused him of 'nothing'.. All of which took place during a rehearsal.

Would you believe she ran up and Hugged and kissed MY spouse, after one of his riders won a motocross race. Totally not his style.

  

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DavidLindFri Dec-08-17 03:53 PM
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"The more I hear about Tweeden's connections and associations, the more..."
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suspicious it makes me. The other women I'm curious about. The journalists talking to them vouch for them, but I'm skeptical. This happened too fast. Franken shouldn't have caved.

  

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GrannycSat Dec-09-17 03:31 AM
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"I heard a rumor on a Right Wing FB page"
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The folks there claim: "Al Franken will NOT resign if Moore wins the election."

If true -- I hope Moore wins! Even though I actually hate the things, he states that, he believes in.

  

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DavidLindSat Dec-09-17 06:20 AM
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"RE: I heard a rumor on a Right Wing FB page"
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I heard something similiar. I wish Franken would fight it out.

I hate the thought of Roy Moore sitting in the US Senate, but if he does, democrats can make hay with it in 2018.

I forgot to ask. Are you OK? From the news, LA looks like Dante's Inferno.

  

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GrannycSat Dec-09-17 02:05 PM
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"We're ok -- fires not too close"
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Actually, we are not even getting the smoke from any of the fires, at this time.

Several friends live within fire zones. One good friend's house is still standing, while all of his neighbor's homes are gone. Another friend have moved her animals out and is packed, ready to vacate if necessary. She said: "I'm using the time to catch up on laundry."

I just laughed. "If the house burns down later, you won't have access to any of those clean clothes"

The things we do when stressed.

  

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